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« Reply #15 on: 19 May 2014, 01:58:24 »
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Oh yeah, that was a pretty neat mechanic! A shame this project is pretty much dead though, or else I'd totally consider rooting for it.
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« Reply #16 on: 19 May 2014, 02:10:32 »
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Indeed, it is quite unfortunate that Dimensional Crisis is now stopped.
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« Reply #17 on: 19 May 2014, 05:27:31 »
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If this mechanic sounds familiar, then you have obviously played Earthbound and/or Mother 1.
It would work for GS, I guess.
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« Reply #18 on: 20 May 2014, 00:27:00 »
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Really!? Awesome!

As for weapon by sleep, the mechanic would work because the game does not supposedly put you into a straight line, like Earthbound. Backtracking was allowed and sometimes even encouraged by Golden Sun.
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« Reply #19 on: 21 May 2014, 00:23:25 »
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You do know that DCrisis is dead, right?  Until we get a fully functioning editor or close approximation, this section really isn't gonna serve much of a point.
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« Reply #20 on: 21 May 2014, 17:23:28 »
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I mean the ideas can still be used by other hacks you know. The blacksmith in the original GS:TLA seemed very lackluster until the very end, and even then you would only use like 2 or 3 crafts from him (most other stuff you'd be getting from rare drops and all that). I really wish there was more versatility and more options with the blacksmith. It felt like the viable options at each "tier" of forgables was too small.
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« Reply #21 on: 21 May 2014, 17:26:29 »
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So something like the food crafting system in Paper Mario, but for blacksmith gear?
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« Reply #22 on: 21 May 2014, 17:27:35 »
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I haven't played Paper Mario in ages so I don't really recall. It would be cool if you could mix and match forgables though, and have a possibility of more items and stuff like that. Like mix Dark Matter (or whatever it's called) with the Orihacon (or whatever it's called).
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« Reply #23 on: 21 May 2014, 17:33:44 »
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Aah yeah! That's more or less how PM did it from what I recall, but with a "fail" option for when a certain combination doesn't give you an item. It certainly seems like a nice idea for Golden Sun at any rate.
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« Reply #24 on: 21 May 2014, 18:25:03 »
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The real reason the blacksmith seemed so lackluster was because you had to go really far out of your way to get something forged. By the time you got there, the low tier forgeable items were already outclassed, and it was rarely worthwhile to sail all the way over there just for a small increase in power when you happened to pick up a new forging material. You probably wouldn't even go back there until getting teleport, which is all the way in mars lighthouse, at which point only a rare few of the low tier forgeable items are worth using anymore (like the clear bracelet, forged from one of the earliest forging materials you get access to, but retains its usefulness because it gives so much mercury power).
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[9:00:50 PM] Randel Peltier: Ok...what did I do last night?
[9:01:19 PM] Kain: Something boring, repetitive, and lasted for about sixty seconds.
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[10:45:08 AM] Salanewt: But yeah, the elemental phalluses are being... Stroked up by Saturos and co., and the energy will go towards... Mt. Muffin, where the Golden Climax will arise.
[7:28:42 PM] Salanewt: An added bonus is that Isaac and co. were trying to stop Saturos and co. because their beliefs state that Mt. Muffin should remain a virgin.
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[9:54:21 PM] Randel Peltier: Guess the number in my head an you get to pick what I say. Number between 1-10
[9:54:28 PM] leaf: 11
[9:54:36 PM] Randel Peltier: Fuck!
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[8:38:13 PM] Randel Peltier: Shes like this queen up on a pedastal that I have yet to court.
[8:38:29 PM] Kain: You've tried courting her.
[8:38:43 PM] leaf: and failed spectacularly
[8:38:44 PM] Randel Peltier: Ive tried...shes the best dating game ever.
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[12:24:35 AM] Salanewt: I need to find a picture of a naked person to put on the Christmas tree next year.
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[2:19:06 PM] Zeadra: wait... Rief's a guy???
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[1:09:57 PM] Zeadra: well if you want to know if its a new effect or something weird, just check GS1, if side step is there maby it is the nimble dodge thing
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